1 00:00:05,861 --> 00:00:08,741 All triple area sightings is to go on a list, 2 00:00:08,781 --> 00:00:10,581 any fella on that list can expect a visit. 3 00:00:10,621 --> 00:00:12,381 Well, let's hope their wives aren't in. 4 00:00:12,421 --> 00:00:13,701 Let's hope they are. 5 00:00:13,741 --> 00:00:16,221 Hey! If their wives are in, we tread carefully. 6 00:00:16,261 --> 00:00:19,101 The last thing we want to do is embarrass these men. 7 00:00:19,141 --> 00:00:22,061 In our determination to catch this man 8 00:00:22,101 --> 00:00:24,141 we're driving him out of his comfort zone. 9 00:00:24,181 --> 00:00:27,541 He is now making repeated mistakes. 10 00:00:27,581 --> 00:00:30,341 Is it fair to say that every woman is at risk? 11 00:00:30,381 --> 00:00:31,461 Inadvertently. 12 00:00:31,501 --> 00:00:34,781 So, Chief Constable, what would your advice be to the women of Yorkshire? 13 00:00:34,821 --> 00:00:37,261 Stay home. Stay safe. 14 00:00:37,301 --> 00:00:40,501 I want you to go into that office and type up what's on here. 15 00:00:40,541 --> 00:00:42,141 Who's it from? 16 00:00:42,181 --> 00:00:45,701 So, we're all agreed. Whoever wrote those letters, sent that tape. 17 00:00:45,741 --> 00:00:47,741 And if it's not him? It's him. 18 00:00:47,781 --> 00:00:50,141 We call a press conference, have it on television tonight. 19 00:00:50,181 --> 00:00:51,821 Someone is going to know the voice. 20 00:00:51,861 --> 00:00:53,301 The voice you're about to hear 21 00:00:53,341 --> 00:00:56,661 is the man we believe to be the so-called Yorkshire Ripper. 22 00:01:02,661 --> 00:01:04,381 TELEPHONE RINGS 23 00:01:04,421 --> 00:01:07,021 ANSWERPHONE: 'Thank you for calling this freephone number. 24 00:01:07,061 --> 00:01:10,701 'After the tone, you will hear the voice of the man 25 00:01:10,741 --> 00:01:13,221 'believed to be the Yorkshire Ripper. 26 00:01:13,261 --> 00:01:16,861 'If you recognise it, please contact West Yorkshire Police.' 27 00:01:16,901 --> 00:01:18,661 BEEP 28 00:01:18,701 --> 00:01:19,981 'I'm Jack. 29 00:01:21,901 --> 00:01:24,421 'I see you are still having no luck catching me. 30 00:01:26,781 --> 00:01:29,421 'I have the greatest respect for you, George, 31 00:01:29,461 --> 00:01:34,021 'but, Lord, you are no nearer catching me now... 32 00:01:35,301 --> 00:01:37,541 '..than four years ago when I started. 33 00:01:39,701 --> 00:01:41,781 'I reckon your boys are letting you down, George. 34 00:01:43,981 --> 00:01:46,341 'They can't be much good, can they?' 35 00:01:46,381 --> 00:01:48,741 TELEPHONE RINGS 36 00:01:48,781 --> 00:01:52,301 MEG: Millgarth incident room? Are you still in touch with him? 37 00:01:52,341 --> 00:01:54,781 HUBBUB OF CONVERSATIONS 38 00:01:54,821 --> 00:01:56,701 OK, can you describe him for me, please? 39 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:59,421 From Roker but moved to Ryhope... 40 00:01:59,461 --> 00:02:01,181 Works in Kirkgate Market. Thank you. 41 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:04,061 No, that's very useful. Will you just hold the line for me? 42 00:02:04,101 --> 00:02:06,381 Good morning, Millgarth incident room? 43 00:02:06,421 --> 00:02:09,821 Short hair. Short temper, did you say? 44 00:02:09,861 --> 00:02:11,861 Can you speak up for me? 45 00:02:11,901 --> 00:02:14,821 POLICEWOMAN: Were there any peculiarities? 46 00:02:14,861 --> 00:02:17,541 COUGHING All right? 47 00:02:20,981 --> 00:02:24,781 Says I can take two spoonfuls every four hours. 48 00:02:24,821 --> 00:02:27,141 Right... 49 00:02:27,181 --> 00:02:30,661 Let's get this done, and then we'll get down to Wakefield, see Gregory. 50 00:02:30,701 --> 00:02:32,701 TELEPHONE RINGS 51 00:02:34,181 --> 00:02:36,021 Oldfield. WOMAN: 'I've got Mike Dugdale.' 52 00:02:36,061 --> 00:02:37,381 Yeah. Send him through. 53 00:02:39,421 --> 00:02:40,501 Mike? 54 00:02:40,541 --> 00:02:43,661 'Look, I can put this on the front page again, but I need a quote.' 55 00:02:43,701 --> 00:02:47,781 Something from you, give the readers a sense of how it's going. 56 00:02:47,821 --> 00:02:49,381 Well, tell them it's going fine. 57 00:02:49,421 --> 00:02:51,701 'Fucking hell, is that the best you can do?' 58 00:02:51,741 --> 00:02:53,461 It's hardly Oscar Wilde, is it? 59 00:02:53,501 --> 00:02:56,901 Oh, aye? Tell 'em 50,000 calls so far to the hotline, 60 00:02:56,941 --> 00:02:59,221 2,000 calls coming into the station every day 61 00:02:59,261 --> 00:03:01,901 and we're closer to catching this bastard than ever. 62 00:03:01,941 --> 00:03:03,821 Yeah, not before time an' all. 63 00:03:11,101 --> 00:03:13,261 Right, in light of the letters and the tape, 64 00:03:13,301 --> 00:03:15,421 there are five points of elimination. 65 00:03:15,461 --> 00:03:19,941 One - the Ripper must be born between 1924 and 1959. 66 00:03:19,981 --> 00:03:22,101 He must not be coloured. TELEPHONE RINGS 67 00:03:22,141 --> 00:03:23,861 Can you take that off the hook, please? 68 00:03:23,901 --> 00:03:26,701 What if it's important? They'll call back, won't they? 69 00:03:26,741 --> 00:03:28,461 Just do as you're told, take it off the hook. 70 00:03:28,501 --> 00:03:30,181 DIAL TONE 71 00:03:30,221 --> 00:03:32,101 He must not have a shoe size bigger than a 9. 72 00:03:32,141 --> 00:03:35,421 He must be blood group B, same as whoever killed Joan Harrison... 73 00:03:35,461 --> 00:03:37,021 TELEPHONE RINGS 74 00:03:37,061 --> 00:03:39,661 Take them off the hook for two bastard minutes! 75 00:03:41,181 --> 00:03:45,501 Right, finally. He must speak with a Geordie accent. 76 00:03:45,541 --> 00:03:48,421 Anybody not meeting these five points, they're gone. 77 00:03:48,461 --> 00:03:50,221 Is that clear? ALL MUTTERING: Sir. 78 00:03:50,261 --> 00:03:52,261 SHOUTS: Is it clear? ALL, FIRMLY: Yes, boss. 79 00:03:52,301 --> 00:03:55,541 Good. Now, just put the phones back on, get back to work. Let's go. 80 00:03:55,581 --> 00:03:57,261 Jim... 81 00:03:57,301 --> 00:03:58,901 you're coming too, apparently. 82 00:03:58,941 --> 00:04:01,141 TELEPHONES RING 83 00:04:01,181 --> 00:04:03,021 HUBBUB OF CONVERSATIONS 84 00:04:12,141 --> 00:04:15,021 I've been questioned once already. End of '77. 85 00:04:15,061 --> 00:04:17,021 Like I said, these are just routine inquiries. 86 00:04:17,061 --> 00:04:19,381 Have you been to Huddersfield, Leeds and Bradford 87 00:04:19,421 --> 00:04:21,101 in the last 12 months, Mr Watkins? 88 00:04:21,141 --> 00:04:23,261 This is about your blue Ford Escort. 89 00:04:23,301 --> 00:04:25,021 Well, yeah, I travel for work. 90 00:04:25,061 --> 00:04:26,901 Have you ever visited a prostitute, Mr Neale? 91 00:04:28,781 --> 00:04:31,541 We can do this here or we can take you down to the station. 92 00:04:33,501 --> 00:04:36,341 Once. Maybe twice. 93 00:04:36,381 --> 00:04:38,021 But never in Huddersfield. 94 00:04:38,061 --> 00:04:39,101 Sugar? 95 00:04:39,141 --> 00:04:40,741 BOTH: Two, please. 96 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:42,861 What about Bradford or Leeds? 97 00:04:42,901 --> 00:04:44,061 I'm not sure. 98 00:04:44,101 --> 00:04:46,741 So, you don't know where your husband goes at night, Mrs Ashworth? 99 00:04:46,781 --> 00:04:48,261 At-At night? 100 00:04:48,301 --> 00:04:51,981 Only he's been spotted out, driving late in the evenings. 101 00:04:53,141 --> 00:04:57,261 Well, if he goes anywhere, it'll be to see his parishioners. 102 00:04:57,301 --> 00:05:00,541 Alan always makes sure to make time. 103 00:05:03,501 --> 00:05:04,581 Why? 104 00:05:05,701 --> 00:05:07,821 Does he look like someone who goes off with prossies? 105 00:05:07,861 --> 00:05:10,341 He's got no need, he's got me! 106 00:05:10,381 --> 00:05:12,181 It's all right, they're only doing t'job. 107 00:05:12,221 --> 00:05:14,781 Would you be willing to provide us with a handwriting sample? 108 00:05:14,821 --> 00:05:17,141 Maybe a letter or a page from a diary. 109 00:05:17,181 --> 00:05:18,541 It's not him! 110 00:05:18,581 --> 00:05:20,821 Right, so let's prove it, and then that way, 111 00:05:20,861 --> 00:05:22,581 we won't have to come back a third time. 112 00:05:30,941 --> 00:05:33,341 Sir. Sir. 113 00:05:33,381 --> 00:05:35,381 There's an advertising agency overseeing it. 114 00:05:35,421 --> 00:05:39,181 Budget's a million pounds. Unprecedented. 115 00:05:40,381 --> 00:05:41,501 If ever there was a moment 116 00:05:41,541 --> 00:05:44,101 to capitalise on the interest of the tape, this is it. 117 00:05:44,141 --> 00:05:46,581 We push on every front, television, radio. 118 00:05:46,621 --> 00:05:50,061 We're talking 5,500 billboards across the country. 119 00:05:50,101 --> 00:05:51,781 Well, it's a mistake. 120 00:05:51,821 --> 00:05:54,341 No more talk of prostitutes, this is all about the voice. 121 00:05:54,381 --> 00:05:56,581 It's a mistake. Explain. 122 00:05:56,621 --> 00:05:58,901 Well, we can't cope. Who can't? 123 00:05:58,941 --> 00:06:01,021 Nobody. The bloody building can't even cope. 124 00:06:01,061 --> 00:06:04,261 Had to reinforce the floor cos of all the index cards. 125 00:06:04,301 --> 00:06:07,061 We're taking thousands of calls a day as it is. 126 00:06:07,101 --> 00:06:09,301 We carry on with this Project R 127 00:06:09,341 --> 00:06:11,501 then the numbers are just gonna go... What? 128 00:06:11,541 --> 00:06:14,541 What are they going to do, George? Double? Treble? 129 00:06:14,581 --> 00:06:17,461 What the hell does it matter, if it gets us the one call we need? 130 00:06:17,501 --> 00:06:19,501 What the hell does it matter? 131 00:06:19,541 --> 00:06:22,381 Well, I say we don't do it. 132 00:06:22,421 --> 00:06:24,421 Well, you don't get to decide. 133 00:06:24,461 --> 00:06:27,901 You don't get to decide because you have failed. 134 00:06:27,941 --> 00:06:32,901 The most wanted man of the century, more resources than anyone, ever... 135 00:06:34,621 --> 00:06:37,101 ..and you... and you... 136 00:06:37,141 --> 00:06:38,941 and you have failed. 137 00:06:38,981 --> 00:06:41,141 BUZZER 138 00:06:43,501 --> 00:06:47,301 Yes? 'A Detective Nevill, calling from Scotland Yard, Sir.' 139 00:06:49,501 --> 00:06:52,021 One moment. My current meeting's just finishing. 140 00:07:03,821 --> 00:07:05,941 A fucking advertising agency? 141 00:07:07,141 --> 00:07:08,861 'Chief Constable, this is Jim Nevill. 142 00:07:08,901 --> 00:07:11,261 'I'm calling on behalf of Sir David. 143 00:07:11,301 --> 00:07:14,021 'He has asked me to call and arrange a visit.' To London? 144 00:07:14,061 --> 00:07:17,141 'Well, he thought it might be more effective if he came to see you. 145 00:07:18,341 --> 00:07:19,541 'Says he feels like it's a trip 146 00:07:19,581 --> 00:07:22,221 'he should have made a long time ago.' 147 00:07:22,261 --> 00:07:23,821 What a tremendous idea. 148 00:07:24,981 --> 00:07:28,661 Make an arrangement with Pam, and... I look forward to seeing you. 149 00:07:28,701 --> 00:07:30,781 DIAL TONE 150 00:07:34,381 --> 00:07:37,101 There has never been an inquiry of this scale 151 00:07:37,141 --> 00:07:39,341 in the annals of police history. 152 00:07:39,381 --> 00:07:43,101 The reward being offered for information leading to an arrest 153 00:07:43,141 --> 00:07:46,261 currently stands at £30,000. 154 00:07:46,301 --> 00:07:48,861 Are you sure this is the voice of the Ripper himself? 155 00:07:48,901 --> 00:07:50,261 Oh, most certainly. 156 00:07:50,301 --> 00:07:52,541 We shall be publishing copies of the letters 157 00:07:52,581 --> 00:07:55,301 in 300 newspapers across Britain. 158 00:07:55,341 --> 00:07:59,501 And repeating that information on television, on radio, 159 00:07:59,541 --> 00:08:02,381 and various publicity points across the north. 160 00:08:02,421 --> 00:08:05,701 The message from George and his team is clear - 161 00:08:05,741 --> 00:08:08,501 even if you have only the slightest inkling, 162 00:08:08,541 --> 00:08:13,861 about a man at work, an uncle, a chap who lives down the street... 163 00:08:13,901 --> 00:08:16,621 call us. Contact us. 164 00:08:16,661 --> 00:08:21,341 Help bring the worst killer in British criminal history to justice. 165 00:08:23,261 --> 00:08:24,621 Any questions? 166 00:08:24,661 --> 00:08:26,981 Chief Constable, how can you be so sure 167 00:08:27,021 --> 00:08:28,781 that that is the voice of the Ripper himself? 168 00:08:28,821 --> 00:08:31,301 CLAMOUR OF QUESTIONS 169 00:08:55,381 --> 00:08:58,301 DOORBELL RINGS 170 00:08:59,461 --> 00:09:01,261 MAN INSIDE: It's OK, I've got it. 171 00:09:01,301 --> 00:09:04,581 Mr Peter Sutcliffe? Yes. 172 00:09:04,621 --> 00:09:07,661 I'm Detective Constable Laptew, this is Sergeant Robert Blake. 173 00:09:07,701 --> 00:09:10,141 We're making house visits in relation to t'Ripper inquiry. 174 00:09:11,221 --> 00:09:14,421 Am I right in saying you're the owner of a black Sunbeam Rapier? 175 00:09:14,461 --> 00:09:16,541 Not for about a year. 176 00:09:16,581 --> 00:09:18,461 Right, but you did own one? 177 00:09:18,501 --> 00:09:19,901 I did, aye. 178 00:09:21,501 --> 00:09:22,701 Mind if we come in? 179 00:09:23,821 --> 00:09:25,701 No problem. 180 00:09:38,821 --> 00:09:41,221 What do you do for a living, Mr Sutcliffe? 181 00:09:41,261 --> 00:09:42,421 I'm a lorry driver. 182 00:09:42,461 --> 00:09:45,621 Have you had a visit before at all? Have any of our colleagues... 183 00:09:45,661 --> 00:09:48,341 The lads are doing house visits for the Yorkshire Ripper inquiry. 184 00:09:48,381 --> 00:09:51,261 Now's the chance to get rid of your husband if you want to, 185 00:09:51,301 --> 00:09:52,301 Mrs Sutcliffe. 186 00:09:53,341 --> 00:09:56,261 Would either of you like a cup of tea? I'd love a glass of water. 187 00:09:59,941 --> 00:10:03,061 Your Sunbeam Rapier has been spotted in three red-light areas 188 00:10:03,101 --> 00:10:04,581 relevant to our inquiries. 189 00:10:04,621 --> 00:10:06,421 Manningham, over 30 times. 190 00:10:06,461 --> 00:10:08,501 Leeds. Manchester. 191 00:10:09,941 --> 00:10:11,381 Why might that've been, Peter? 192 00:10:11,421 --> 00:10:14,741 Well, I go through Manningham red-light district 193 00:10:14,781 --> 00:10:17,421 on my way into work. I'd be hard pushed to avoid it. 194 00:10:17,461 --> 00:10:20,381 Er, Leeds, I went to not so long ago. 195 00:10:20,421 --> 00:10:23,221 I dropped Sonia off to meet some friends. Chapeltown, that were. 196 00:10:23,261 --> 00:10:24,781 And what about Manchester? 197 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:28,381 When? 198 00:10:28,421 --> 00:10:30,501 February. February... 199 00:10:30,541 --> 00:10:32,821 Why would my car have been in Manchester in February? 200 00:10:32,861 --> 00:10:34,301 It's not just the car. 201 00:10:34,341 --> 00:10:37,621 These are sightings of males alone in cars. Thank you. 202 00:10:39,661 --> 00:10:42,821 Well, when in February? The 16th. A Tuesday. 203 00:10:44,061 --> 00:10:46,781 That wouldn't have been our Peter. We barely ever go out. 204 00:10:46,821 --> 00:10:49,621 Certainly not on a Tuesday. Well, the thing is, Mrs Sutcliffe... 205 00:10:49,661 --> 00:10:52,661 You'll have made a mistake. Peter would have been working. 206 00:10:52,701 --> 00:10:55,541 And if not, he would've been here... with me. 207 00:10:57,781 --> 00:11:00,701 Would you be willing to provide us with a handwriting sample? 208 00:11:00,741 --> 00:11:02,861 Aye. Yeah, no problem. 209 00:11:04,581 --> 00:11:06,981 What shoe size are you, Peter? Why? 210 00:11:07,021 --> 00:11:08,581 Never mind why. 211 00:11:08,621 --> 00:11:11,861 An 8. 8-and-a-half. 212 00:11:11,901 --> 00:11:14,981 You never owned a shoe or a boot smaller than 8-and-a-half? 213 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:17,781 Why would I want to do that? 214 00:11:21,461 --> 00:11:22,901 I'm sorry to ask... 215 00:11:24,581 --> 00:11:25,781 ..what about prostitutes? 216 00:11:26,861 --> 00:11:28,741 In all of your visits to these red-light areas, 217 00:11:28,781 --> 00:11:30,261 have you ever used prostitutes? 218 00:11:32,341 --> 00:11:34,341 I wouldn't want to do that either. 219 00:11:39,421 --> 00:11:42,421 We need you to help us find the man they call the Yorkshire Ripper. 220 00:11:43,861 --> 00:11:46,221 Gather round, everyone, and listen to the tape. 221 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:51,821 Nice and quiet now, please, so that everybody can hear it properly. 222 00:11:53,061 --> 00:11:56,181 I have come here tonight to play you a tape of the man 223 00:11:56,221 --> 00:11:58,661 who we believe to be the so-called Yorkshire Ripper. 224 00:11:58,701 --> 00:12:02,301 If you recognise the voice, don't hesitate in coming forward. 225 00:12:05,381 --> 00:12:09,021 'I'm Jack...' Listen, then look at the writing. 226 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:11,861 Who do you know who might have handwriting like that? 227 00:12:11,901 --> 00:12:14,461 'I have the greatest respect for you, George...' 228 00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:15,981 This is not a man with devil horns. 229 00:12:16,021 --> 00:12:18,741 'You are no nearer catching me now than four years ago...' 230 00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:20,021 He's a dad. 231 00:12:21,221 --> 00:12:23,381 A brother. 232 00:12:23,421 --> 00:12:24,821 A son. 233 00:12:24,861 --> 00:12:26,861 'I reckon your boys are letting you down, George.' 234 00:12:26,901 --> 00:12:28,781 And he lives in one of these houses. 235 00:12:30,981 --> 00:12:32,381 You can help us now. 236 00:12:34,541 --> 00:12:36,461 You can tell us exactly who he is. 237 00:12:41,221 --> 00:12:43,581 Right, well, sorry to bother you again. 238 00:12:43,621 --> 00:12:46,421 I know you've already spoken to our colleague DCS Domaille, 239 00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:49,181 but you've also spoken to the man that we're looking for. 240 00:12:50,861 --> 00:12:53,941 You've spoken to the Ripper. You heard his voice. 241 00:12:55,261 --> 00:12:56,701 That's right, love. 242 00:12:56,741 --> 00:12:58,941 I don't know if you're aware, but he's sent a tape, 243 00:12:58,981 --> 00:13:00,461 so we've heard it too now. So... 244 00:13:00,501 --> 00:13:02,341 It would be very helpful for us 245 00:13:02,381 --> 00:13:05,221 if you can confirm that this voice is the man we're looking for. 246 00:13:05,261 --> 00:13:08,221 There are those in our organisation don't believe it's him, you see. 247 00:13:09,541 --> 00:13:10,621 It's not him. 248 00:13:11,861 --> 00:13:13,821 Well, let's take a listen first, shall we? 249 00:13:15,101 --> 00:13:16,341 I don't need to have a listen. 250 00:13:16,381 --> 00:13:18,341 I've heard it on t'news. It's not him. 251 00:13:18,381 --> 00:13:20,261 Well, let's just listen, shall we? 252 00:13:20,301 --> 00:13:22,821 Carefully, and then we'll discuss it. 253 00:13:27,261 --> 00:13:28,261 'I'm Jack. 254 00:13:30,141 --> 00:13:32,701 'I see you are still having no luck catching me. 255 00:13:34,421 --> 00:13:36,861 'I have the greatest respect for you, George, 256 00:13:36,901 --> 00:13:41,901 'but, Lord, you are no nearer catching me now 257 00:13:41,941 --> 00:13:44,301 'than four years ago when I started. 258 00:13:45,461 --> 00:13:47,461 'I reckon your boys are letting you down, George.' 259 00:13:47,501 --> 00:13:49,021 That's not the man who attacked me. 260 00:13:49,061 --> 00:13:50,861 'They can't be much good, can they? 261 00:13:50,901 --> 00:13:53,701 'The only time they came near...' 262 00:13:57,421 --> 00:13:59,261 Well, I think you'll find it is. 263 00:13:59,301 --> 00:14:01,421 No, love. He were a Yorkshireman. 264 00:14:01,461 --> 00:14:03,021 You said it were a gentle voice. 265 00:14:03,061 --> 00:14:05,981 Aye, cos it were. It were soft. 266 00:14:06,021 --> 00:14:08,621 What size feet did he have? 267 00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:12,141 How would I know? Roughly. 268 00:14:13,781 --> 00:14:15,661 I've got... I've got no idea. 269 00:14:15,701 --> 00:14:17,501 I don't want any messing about here, Olive. 270 00:14:17,541 --> 00:14:19,381 If the man who attacked you were not the Ripper, 271 00:14:19,421 --> 00:14:22,341 well, then it's time to come clean and tell us. 272 00:14:35,821 --> 00:14:39,221 I trust the evidence over some woman who's been banged about the head. 273 00:14:50,061 --> 00:14:51,781 Sir David. Ronald. 274 00:14:53,541 --> 00:14:54,981 Jim. Chief Constable. 275 00:14:55,021 --> 00:14:56,101 Follow me. 276 00:14:57,381 --> 00:15:01,221 "Never an inquiry of this scale in the annals of police history." 277 00:15:02,581 --> 00:15:03,621 Those were your words 278 00:15:03,661 --> 00:15:06,341 when you announced the launch of this Project R. 279 00:15:06,381 --> 00:15:08,421 I saw that the other day, and I thought to myself, 280 00:15:08,461 --> 00:15:10,021 "Aye, I suppose that must be true." 281 00:15:10,061 --> 00:15:12,221 In this country, undoubtedly. 282 00:15:12,261 --> 00:15:13,901 You know, Ron, there comes a point 283 00:15:13,941 --> 00:15:15,821 when your inability to catch this man 284 00:15:15,861 --> 00:15:18,061 becomes a matter of national concern. 285 00:15:18,101 --> 00:15:19,501 Well, it's certainly a concern 286 00:15:19,541 --> 00:15:21,741 for all of us on the West Yorkshire Force. 287 00:15:21,781 --> 00:15:23,581 Our greatest priority. 288 00:15:23,621 --> 00:15:26,341 But I don't know of anyone who believes this series of crimes 289 00:15:26,381 --> 00:15:28,461 will extend beyond the north of England. 290 00:15:28,501 --> 00:15:30,021 That's not what he's saying. 291 00:15:30,061 --> 00:15:32,541 Four years, 11 murders. 292 00:15:32,581 --> 00:15:35,781 A succession of Senior Investigating Officers... No arrests. 293 00:15:35,821 --> 00:15:39,661 No arrests. Barely any suspects, or have I got that wrong? 294 00:15:39,701 --> 00:15:41,061 That's not entirely... 295 00:15:41,101 --> 00:15:43,141 This is starting to affect the public's confidence 296 00:15:43,181 --> 00:15:45,821 in the police as a whole, nationally. 297 00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:47,381 That is what he is saying. 298 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:51,181 This Project R, to see it another way, 299 00:15:51,221 --> 00:15:53,821 this is just you highlighting your own shortcomings. 300 00:15:53,861 --> 00:15:56,741 "We need your help to catch the Ripper..." ie, 301 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,501 "..because we can't do it ourselves." 302 00:15:58,541 --> 00:16:01,501 Josephine Whitaker. She was not a prostitute. 303 00:16:01,541 --> 00:16:04,021 No... Jayne MacDonald. She was not a prostitute. 304 00:16:04,061 --> 00:16:08,941 And yet you maintain that this man is hunting prostitutes. You insist. 305 00:16:10,021 --> 00:16:11,341 And insist that he's a Geordie. 306 00:16:11,381 --> 00:16:14,661 Those are the findings of George Oldfield and his team... 307 00:16:14,701 --> 00:16:16,901 But, Ronald... A very experienced team. 308 00:16:16,941 --> 00:16:19,021 But, Ronald! 309 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:22,381 The buck stops with you. This is on you. 310 00:16:26,541 --> 00:16:27,821 Downing Street called me. 311 00:16:29,141 --> 00:16:31,781 Asked whether this wasn't the time for the Met to get involved. 312 00:16:31,821 --> 00:16:34,261 An internal review from Jim here, perhaps. 313 00:16:34,301 --> 00:16:36,021 To which I said no. 314 00:16:36,061 --> 00:16:38,261 Such an imposition could never be possible. 315 00:16:39,501 --> 00:16:42,941 Not unless Ronald Gregory could be persuaded to meet with us 316 00:16:42,981 --> 00:16:45,621 and, er, sanction such a thing personally. 317 00:16:55,661 --> 00:16:58,701 His shoe size were an 8. He said 8, 8-and-a-half. 318 00:16:58,741 --> 00:17:02,541 And put that he's a lorry driver, so he'll have access to tools. 319 00:17:02,581 --> 00:17:05,421 Gap in his teeth. This is Marilyn Moore's file. 320 00:17:06,741 --> 00:17:08,381 Photofit done December '77. 321 00:17:17,541 --> 00:17:19,181 What do you wanna do? 322 00:17:28,141 --> 00:17:30,141 Only about half of the people whose voices we like 323 00:17:30,181 --> 00:17:31,341 have given a writing sample. 324 00:17:33,101 --> 00:17:35,941 This one's not far off. The G's and the P's. 325 00:17:37,221 --> 00:17:40,261 But then again, "You say seven, but remember Preston '75." 326 00:17:40,301 --> 00:17:42,341 The Y's are completely different. 327 00:17:44,101 --> 00:17:48,181 Right, so we should eliminate that and move on, yeah? David? 328 00:17:49,181 --> 00:17:50,301 David? 329 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:53,381 What date was this sent? 330 00:17:53,421 --> 00:17:55,141 This first letter to Oldfield? 331 00:17:56,941 --> 00:17:59,901 It was, erm... last year. Erm... 332 00:17:59,941 --> 00:18:02,541 March 8th, '78. 333 00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:03,821 Yeah. 334 00:18:03,861 --> 00:18:05,861 And when was Donna DeAngelo found? 335 00:18:07,621 --> 00:18:12,461 DeAngelo was, er, found after the letter came... 336 00:18:12,501 --> 00:18:14,741 April 10th, '78. 337 00:18:14,781 --> 00:18:16,821 Yeah, April 10th, '78. 338 00:18:20,421 --> 00:18:23,501 So, the letter is 8th of March. 339 00:18:23,541 --> 00:18:27,141 DeAngelo is found 10th of April. 340 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:30,501 So we have McCann, one. 341 00:18:30,541 --> 00:18:32,901 Jackson, two. Richardson, three. 342 00:18:32,941 --> 00:18:34,901 Atkinson, four. MacDonald, five. 343 00:18:34,941 --> 00:18:37,301 Jordan, six. Rytka, seven. 344 00:18:37,341 --> 00:18:39,701 And then March 8th, '78... The letter. 345 00:18:39,741 --> 00:18:41,541 And then the letter. It says, 346 00:18:41,581 --> 00:18:44,541 "You say seven but remember Preston '75." 347 00:18:44,581 --> 00:18:48,501 Meaning, er, Harrison's linked. 348 00:18:48,541 --> 00:18:49,861 Meaning eight. 349 00:18:49,901 --> 00:18:54,101 And then... on the 10th of April, 350 00:18:54,141 --> 00:18:56,621 Donna DeAngelo is found underneath the mattress. 351 00:18:56,661 --> 00:18:58,581 David, where are you going with this? 352 00:18:58,621 --> 00:19:00,661 DeAngelo becomes number nine. 353 00:19:02,301 --> 00:19:06,781 She was found April 10th, a month after the letter arrived. 354 00:19:06,821 --> 00:19:09,221 But here's the question - how long had poor Donna DeAngelo 355 00:19:09,261 --> 00:19:11,701 been lying dead underneath that mattress? 356 00:19:13,541 --> 00:19:15,741 Two months. Two months. 357 00:19:16,941 --> 00:19:18,301 Meaning she was killed... 358 00:19:18,341 --> 00:19:20,661 Before the letter was sent. 359 00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:22,981 Now, here's a man who is keen on making sure Oldfield 360 00:19:23,021 --> 00:19:24,621 gets the total number of victims right. 361 00:19:26,421 --> 00:19:27,741 So why no mention of DeAngelo? 362 00:19:27,781 --> 00:19:29,421 Why does our man with the Geordie accent 363 00:19:29,461 --> 00:19:31,221 fail to mention so recent a victim? 364 00:19:31,261 --> 00:19:33,181 Because he doesn't know about her. 365 00:19:33,221 --> 00:19:36,381 And why doesn't our man with the Geordie accent know about her...? 366 00:19:37,661 --> 00:19:40,181 Because he's not the Ripper. 367 00:19:49,541 --> 00:19:52,301 HUBBUB OF CONVERSATIONS, TELEPHONES RINGING 368 00:19:52,341 --> 00:19:54,061 Meg, I need to get... That's OK. 369 00:19:54,101 --> 00:19:56,541 So he lives where, sorry? Newtown Farm Estate? 370 00:19:56,581 --> 00:19:58,581 And what's his name, please? 371 00:19:58,621 --> 00:20:00,901 Is Nunn in? No, I don't think so. 372 00:20:12,021 --> 00:20:13,581 Sir. 373 00:20:13,621 --> 00:20:16,181 I think we might have something. 374 00:20:17,581 --> 00:20:19,141 Lorry driver. From Bradford. 375 00:20:19,181 --> 00:20:21,661 I visited him last week. Geordie accent? 376 00:20:21,701 --> 00:20:25,021 He's a dead ringer for t'Marilyn Moore Photofit. 377 00:20:25,061 --> 00:20:27,621 Shoe size is close, but here's the bit that gets me. 378 00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:30,261 This is from t'Jackson scene. 379 00:20:30,301 --> 00:20:32,101 Now, we only noticed this the other day. 380 00:20:32,141 --> 00:20:34,221 The right boot, 8, faded. Look. 381 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:38,021 Like he's been using that bit of his foot more than t'rest. 382 00:20:38,061 --> 00:20:40,141 Well, he's a lorry driver, in't he? 383 00:20:40,181 --> 00:20:41,861 So he'll have been pressing on t'pedal. 384 00:20:41,901 --> 00:20:43,421 How many times? 385 00:20:43,461 --> 00:20:45,341 Sir? 386 00:20:45,381 --> 00:20:48,301 Has he got a Geordie fucking accent? 387 00:20:50,021 --> 00:20:52,381 No. Thank you. That's all I wanted. 388 00:21:13,221 --> 00:21:14,741 TV: 'The body of Barbara Leach, 389 00:21:14,781 --> 00:21:17,981 'a 20-year-old university student from Kettering 390 00:21:18,021 --> 00:21:20,421 'was found on Monday afternoon. 391 00:21:20,461 --> 00:21:22,861 'She left the Mannville Arms around one o'clock 392 00:21:22,901 --> 00:21:26,541 'and was walking home alone in the dark, when somewhere along the way 393 00:21:26,581 --> 00:21:29,461 'she met the man they call the Yorkshire Ripper. 394 00:21:29,501 --> 00:21:34,421 'Miss Leach becomes the 12th victim and the third in the Bradford area. 395 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:36,101 'Like Josephine Whitaker, 396 00:21:36,141 --> 00:21:37,861 'Miss Leach had no links to prostitution 397 00:21:37,901 --> 00:21:40,181 'and was murdered nowhere near a red-light district.' 398 00:21:40,221 --> 00:21:42,781 What's this? She was a student. Like Jackie. 399 00:21:42,821 --> 00:21:44,541 In Leeds? 400 00:21:45,701 --> 00:21:48,341 Bradford. She was just walking home. 401 00:21:48,381 --> 00:21:50,861 'The truth is, they couldn't do much to stop him. 402 00:21:50,901 --> 00:21:54,021 'For, even with his voice on tape, his handwriting 403 00:21:54,061 --> 00:21:57,981 'and the evidence of 12 murders, they still don't know who he is, 404 00:21:58,021 --> 00:22:01,461 'leaving many women afraid to walk the streets at night.' 405 00:22:02,461 --> 00:22:04,101 I don't go out to pubs and clubs. 406 00:22:04,141 --> 00:22:07,501 'It's not just pubs and clubs, it's anywhere.' 407 00:22:07,541 --> 00:22:10,221 And if you do go out, go out in a group or a pair. 408 00:22:10,261 --> 00:22:13,301 But never alone. D'you understand? 409 00:22:13,341 --> 00:22:14,981 'Mam, I get it.' 410 00:22:15,021 --> 00:22:17,621 I don't want anything to happen to me either. 411 00:22:19,261 --> 00:22:20,861 'I love you.' 412 00:22:22,181 --> 00:22:24,741 I love you, too. 'Yeah. Bye.' 413 00:22:24,781 --> 00:22:26,341 OK, bye. 414 00:22:31,221 --> 00:22:33,581 I'll be one minute. 415 00:22:33,621 --> 00:22:36,101 GIRLS CHATTING 416 00:22:47,061 --> 00:22:48,661 Have you seen this? 417 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,981 Look at her. She's just a child. 418 00:22:52,261 --> 00:22:55,781 No, you daft 'apeth. No, the article on t'other page. 419 00:22:55,821 --> 00:22:57,181 Oh, right. 420 00:22:57,221 --> 00:22:59,141 All the papers are saying the same. 421 00:22:59,181 --> 00:23:00,941 They're all saying they've not got a clue. 422 00:23:02,741 --> 00:23:05,381 It proves nothing. It's a vital detail. 423 00:23:05,421 --> 00:23:08,061 If we spent our time worrying about what criminals didn't tell us, 424 00:23:08,101 --> 00:23:09,581 we'd drive ourselves fucking daft! 425 00:23:09,621 --> 00:23:11,221 He's also stopped going for prostitutes 426 00:23:11,261 --> 00:23:12,381 in case you hadn't noticed. 427 00:23:12,421 --> 00:23:15,061 He's stopped cos we've driven him out of t'red-light districts. 428 00:23:15,101 --> 00:23:17,541 Maybe we should stop patrolling them, hm? 429 00:23:17,581 --> 00:23:19,741 Say that again? 430 00:23:19,781 --> 00:23:22,581 Well, he might come back, stop going after innocent lasses. 431 00:23:22,621 --> 00:23:24,381 I can't believe I'm hearing this! 432 00:23:26,021 --> 00:23:27,981 I do not think the man on the tape is the Ripper. 433 00:23:28,021 --> 00:23:30,301 You've made that clear. I want that on record. 434 00:23:30,341 --> 00:23:31,501 But you're wrong. 435 00:23:31,541 --> 00:23:33,541 There are things in those letters and on that tape 436 00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:34,901 that only the Ripper would know. 437 00:23:34,941 --> 00:23:37,341 You not heard about the similarities between our letters 438 00:23:37,381 --> 00:23:39,061 and the ones sent to the inquiry in London? 439 00:23:39,101 --> 00:23:41,621 Yes, I have, thank you. Or has that passed you by and all? 440 00:23:41,661 --> 00:23:44,541 Remember who you're fucking talking to! 441 00:23:45,621 --> 00:23:47,061 Commander Nevill's here. 442 00:23:55,181 --> 00:23:58,021 TELEPHONES RINGING, ANIMATED CONVERSATIONS 443 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:05,701 Sir. Mr Oldfield's asked me to find you a desk somewhere quiet 444 00:24:05,741 --> 00:24:08,581 so the noise in the incident room doesn't put you off your work. 445 00:24:08,621 --> 00:24:10,301 If you'd like to follow me? 446 00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:20,581 TAXI DRIVER: Come on, ladies. 447 00:24:20,621 --> 00:24:22,421 GIRLS LAUGHING 448 00:24:29,021 --> 00:24:30,781 All right, ladies, that's us full now. 449 00:24:30,821 --> 00:24:33,061 You'll have to wait. Oh, come on. 450 00:24:33,101 --> 00:24:35,581 I'm only round the corner. Sorry, love. 451 00:24:35,621 --> 00:24:38,141 I'll be back in 30 minutes. Get the door, love. 452 00:25:05,661 --> 00:25:07,061 Will he be waiting up? 453 00:25:07,101 --> 00:25:09,621 Oh, no. Thank goodness. 454 00:25:12,061 --> 00:25:14,221 He's not been in the house for a while. 455 00:25:14,261 --> 00:25:16,061 Oh, Meg. 456 00:25:16,101 --> 00:25:18,381 TELEPHONE RINGS 457 00:25:19,701 --> 00:25:20,901 Don't you dare. 458 00:25:27,861 --> 00:25:30,061 Night, love. Thank you. 459 00:25:32,581 --> 00:25:34,741 Millgarth incident room, how can I help? 460 00:25:34,781 --> 00:25:37,221 RADIO: 'Hi, Jenny, you're on KBC. What's your question?' 461 00:25:37,261 --> 00:25:39,541 'Well, what I'd like to know is, 462 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:41,701 'what if he just put on a Geordie accent for the tape? 463 00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:43,981 'That's what nobody seems to be saying.' 464 00:25:44,021 --> 00:25:45,661 'That's a really good question, Jenny. 465 00:25:45,701 --> 00:25:47,021 'We've been ask...' 466 00:26:07,861 --> 00:26:09,821 POLICEMEN CHATTING 467 00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:19,501 GIRLS LAUGHING 468 00:26:19,541 --> 00:26:21,981 MEN DRUNKENLY SHOUTING DISTANTLY 469 00:26:24,781 --> 00:26:26,621 GLASS SHATTERS DISTANTLY 470 00:26:26,661 --> 00:26:28,861 SHOUTING AND SHRIEKING DISTANTLY 471 00:26:30,221 --> 00:26:32,621 DOG BARKS AGGRESSIVELY 472 00:26:46,341 --> 00:26:47,821 RUSTLING, BIRD CRIES 473 00:27:04,861 --> 00:27:06,501 Hey... 474 00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:11,461 Excuse me. Hey, wait a minute. 475 00:27:11,501 --> 00:27:13,581 You dropped your keys, love. 476 00:27:18,621 --> 00:27:20,501 There. See? 477 00:27:21,861 --> 00:27:24,781 You're a lucky lady. Thank you. 478 00:27:24,821 --> 00:27:26,861 D'you wanna go for a drink? 479 00:27:28,501 --> 00:27:30,581 No. Oh, go on. 480 00:27:32,101 --> 00:27:33,381 No. Thank you. 481 00:27:38,061 --> 00:27:41,661 SHE BREATHES SHAKILY 482 00:27:46,221 --> 00:27:50,861 YELLING IN DISTANCE 483 00:27:50,901 --> 00:27:53,021 TELEPHONE RINGS 484 00:27:57,141 --> 00:27:59,261 TELEPHONE RINGS 485 00:28:17,261 --> 00:28:18,861 Grange Moor. 486 00:28:18,901 --> 00:28:21,421 'George? It's Mike Dugdale.' 487 00:28:21,461 --> 00:28:23,421 We're running a piece tomorrow saying that... 488 00:28:25,861 --> 00:28:27,581 ..we've lost faith. 489 00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:30,901 'The nationals are saying the same.' 490 00:28:32,101 --> 00:28:34,461 George. It's out of control. 491 00:28:36,621 --> 00:28:38,701 All the things I've done for you. 492 00:28:39,781 --> 00:28:40,861 It's nothing personal. 493 00:28:40,901 --> 00:28:43,941 'He's killing the wives and daughters of our readers. 494 00:28:43,981 --> 00:28:45,621 'They're fucking terrified.' 495 00:28:45,661 --> 00:28:46,981 Who was that? 496 00:28:47,021 --> 00:28:49,221 TELEPHONE RINGS 497 00:28:49,261 --> 00:28:50,941 GRUFFLY: What? 498 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:53,301 'Hello? Mr Oldfield?' 499 00:28:54,661 --> 00:28:58,541 Speaking. Oh, erm, this is Mrs MacDonald. 500 00:28:58,581 --> 00:29:00,301 Irene MacDonald. 501 00:29:00,341 --> 00:29:02,261 'Jayne's mother.' 502 00:29:02,301 --> 00:29:04,261 Mrs MacDonald. 503 00:29:05,901 --> 00:29:07,661 How can I help you, love? 504 00:29:07,701 --> 00:29:10,701 Well, you know you came to see us that time, 505 00:29:10,741 --> 00:29:14,421 and you gave us your number and you said we were to call you anytime. 506 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:15,901 Aye, I meant it. 507 00:29:15,941 --> 00:29:20,181 'Only... we heard the tape, you see.' 508 00:29:20,221 --> 00:29:22,061 The voice. 509 00:29:23,701 --> 00:29:25,141 And it got us thinking... 510 00:29:27,261 --> 00:29:29,821 Now, this were five, six years ago now, 511 00:29:29,861 --> 00:29:33,381 but we went on holiday to Scotland. 512 00:29:33,421 --> 00:29:36,901 'And there were this man staying at the hotel... 513 00:29:38,301 --> 00:29:39,341 '..and he were a Geordie. 514 00:29:41,221 --> 00:29:43,101 'James, he were called. Or Jim. 515 00:29:43,141 --> 00:29:45,101 'Do you need a minute to find a pen?' 516 00:29:49,701 --> 00:29:51,541 Thank you. 517 00:29:52,781 --> 00:29:55,701 'Jim. Average height. Fair hair.' 518 00:29:57,061 --> 00:29:58,461 FAINTLY: Thank you. 519 00:29:58,501 --> 00:30:00,221 'Thank you, Mrs MacDonald.' 520 00:30:01,661 --> 00:30:04,541 Only... They want us to think now, don't they? 521 00:30:06,101 --> 00:30:10,301 'It said in t'paper... he could be anybody.' 522 00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:11,941 Nobody knows. 523 00:30:13,941 --> 00:30:15,581 'Thank you, Mrs MacDonald.' 524 00:30:15,621 --> 00:30:17,861 And I meant what I said, you know, if... 525 00:30:20,261 --> 00:30:24,661 ..you think of anything, then you just call me, all right? 526 00:31:01,701 --> 00:31:03,941 GRUNTS 527 00:31:18,621 --> 00:31:20,261 No woman is safe, 528 00:31:20,301 --> 00:31:24,101 with bank workers, students, baby sitters all being killed? 529 00:31:24,141 --> 00:31:27,381 Well, what women need to do, and George has said this, 530 00:31:27,421 --> 00:31:30,701 is make sure they do not go out alone, late at night. 531 00:31:30,741 --> 00:31:32,701 Is that the official advice? 532 00:31:32,741 --> 00:31:35,021 Well, that's just common sense. 533 00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:39,261 How would you best characterise the system that you have in place here? 534 00:31:39,301 --> 00:31:42,581 The system's the same system as is put in place for any murder. 535 00:31:42,621 --> 00:31:47,101 But this being several murders, that system has become overburdened. 536 00:31:47,141 --> 00:31:50,541 "Overburdened." "At a maximum." Depends what word you wanna use. 537 00:31:52,101 --> 00:31:54,381 I want to use the word overburdened. 538 00:31:54,421 --> 00:31:56,901 We haven't spent all this money and done nothing. 539 00:31:58,101 --> 00:32:01,501 We've tried to catch the man who's committing all these murders. 540 00:32:01,541 --> 00:32:04,781 So if I were to ask you to bring me all the evidence 541 00:32:04,821 --> 00:32:07,541 pertaining to a Joe Bloggs, how would you do that? 542 00:32:07,581 --> 00:32:10,181 That depends. Does Joe Bloggs drive a car? 543 00:32:10,221 --> 00:32:12,861 No idea. Sorry? That's what I mean. 544 00:32:12,901 --> 00:32:14,181 You tell me. 545 00:32:15,461 --> 00:32:17,941 Well, you'd look under B, for Bloggs. Then J, for Joe. 546 00:32:17,981 --> 00:32:20,341 Then it'll come down to which Joe Bloggs you're on about, 547 00:32:20,381 --> 00:32:22,941 cos there'll be more than one, name like that. 548 00:32:22,981 --> 00:32:26,541 It's 12-hour days, six days a week. 549 00:32:26,581 --> 00:32:28,941 But we don't mind that, cos we want him caught. 550 00:32:30,301 --> 00:32:33,581 And nobody does more hours than Mr Oldfield. 551 00:32:33,621 --> 00:32:35,501 Where is Mr Oldfield? 552 00:32:35,541 --> 00:32:38,701 Well, I've been told he's got a chest infection. 553 00:32:38,741 --> 00:32:40,781 Meaning he's unfit to lead? 554 00:32:40,821 --> 00:32:43,381 I can't think of anyone fitter. What would George say 555 00:32:43,421 --> 00:32:46,221 if, in my report, 556 00:32:46,261 --> 00:32:49,421 I were to recommend a different approach here? 557 00:32:49,461 --> 00:32:52,301 A new way of doing things? Honestly? 558 00:32:52,341 --> 00:32:53,461 Please. 559 00:32:53,501 --> 00:32:55,781 I think he'd say you should get back to London, 560 00:32:55,821 --> 00:32:57,861 concentrate on catching your own Ripper first, 561 00:32:57,901 --> 00:32:59,061 then once that's done, 562 00:32:59,101 --> 00:33:01,141 you'd be more than welcome to come back up here 563 00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:03,261 and tell us all how it's done. 564 00:33:03,301 --> 00:33:06,261 Is there anything else about this case that you want to tell me? 565 00:33:06,301 --> 00:33:09,181 Anything you feel we could learn from? 566 00:33:12,341 --> 00:33:15,421 Only that... SHE SIGHS 567 00:33:17,101 --> 00:33:18,221 Go on. 568 00:33:20,701 --> 00:33:24,501 Only that they say there's been 12 victims. 569 00:33:24,541 --> 00:33:26,221 But you think there are more? 570 00:33:27,461 --> 00:33:28,461 There will be. 571 00:33:29,781 --> 00:33:32,781 People's lives will carry on being destroyed. 572 00:33:33,941 --> 00:33:35,461 Until they catch this man. 573 00:33:35,501 --> 00:33:36,661 No. 574 00:33:37,941 --> 00:33:39,221 Long after that. 575 00:33:44,181 --> 00:33:47,621 TV: 'Tonight, we bring you a special report on the Yorkshire Ripper, 576 00:33:47,661 --> 00:33:50,901 'asking if the police are looking for the wrong man. 577 00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:53,421 'Some senior police officers and other observers 578 00:33:53,461 --> 00:33:56,701 'fear that the investigators could be so entrenched in their beliefs 579 00:33:56,741 --> 00:33:58,781 'about the kind of man they're hunting, 580 00:33:58,821 --> 00:34:00,781 'that the killer has been overlooked.' 581 00:34:00,821 --> 00:34:04,141 JACK: 'I reckon your boys are letting you down, George. 582 00:34:04,181 --> 00:34:06,701 'They can't be much good, can they?' 583 00:34:06,741 --> 00:34:09,181 'It has been four years since the first killing, 584 00:34:09,221 --> 00:34:12,021 'nearly two months since the murder of Barbara Leach 585 00:34:12,061 --> 00:34:15,981 'and the Yorkshire Ripper investigation needs a fresh mind. 586 00:34:16,021 --> 00:34:18,461 'Many are feeling that George Oldfield, 587 00:34:18,501 --> 00:34:22,061 'who recently stepped back from the investigation due to health issues, 588 00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,621 'has become too close and too personally involved in the case 589 00:34:25,661 --> 00:34:27,661 'to view the matter objectively. 590 00:34:27,701 --> 00:34:30,781 'Tonight, we take a look at what has been going wrong 591 00:34:30,821 --> 00:34:33,101 'for the UK's biggest manhunt.' 592 00:34:40,941 --> 00:34:43,781 What Jasper means is that nobody in this room 593 00:34:43,821 --> 00:34:47,261 works for the Probation Service itself, we're volunteers. 594 00:34:47,301 --> 00:34:49,861 I'm Ruth. This is Tina, Tony 595 00:34:49,901 --> 00:34:52,101 and, of course, Jasper, who is our chair. 596 00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:54,661 We visit prisoners. 597 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,061 Prisoners who don't have anyone else to visit them... 598 00:34:57,101 --> 00:35:00,221 and prisoners' partners, for support. 599 00:35:01,461 --> 00:35:05,221 Everyone does what they can but we can always do more. 600 00:35:06,461 --> 00:35:09,181 Tonight is just an opportunity for us all to meet 601 00:35:09,221 --> 00:35:10,981 and for anyone to ask any questions. 602 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:12,861 Yes? 603 00:35:14,261 --> 00:35:15,541 Do we get to choose who we visit? 604 00:35:17,861 --> 00:35:21,301 Well, I don't want to go see a... some kind of pervert. 605 00:35:22,541 --> 00:35:24,501 It's a very good question. Erm... 606 00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:27,781 you don't have to meet anyone you don't want to. 607 00:35:27,821 --> 00:35:30,581 But what I would say is... 608 00:35:30,621 --> 00:35:33,501 depending on how long they've served, 609 00:35:33,541 --> 00:35:35,821 the man that you meet in prison 610 00:35:35,861 --> 00:35:38,981 is not necessarily the man who committed the crime. 611 00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:43,221 But if you're unsure, it's better to know. 612 00:35:44,301 --> 00:35:46,581 If you sign up and don't turn up, 613 00:35:46,621 --> 00:35:48,821 you're not letting us down... 614 00:35:50,101 --> 00:35:51,661 ..it's the prisoners. 615 00:35:53,461 --> 00:35:55,581 But a good question, thank you. Anybody else? 616 00:35:57,341 --> 00:35:59,021 OK, well, I'll pass it back to you, Jasper. 617 00:35:59,061 --> 00:36:01,501 I've been reading up. 618 00:36:01,541 --> 00:36:03,501 I think it's important people do this. 619 00:36:04,741 --> 00:36:05,981 Why are you so certain? 620 00:36:06,021 --> 00:36:10,661 Because punishment's not enough. My dad says it's too good for some. 621 00:36:12,221 --> 00:36:14,421 There's no point just locking people away, 622 00:36:14,461 --> 00:36:16,341 whatever terrible thing they might have done. 623 00:36:17,581 --> 00:36:19,221 They need to get better. 624 00:36:19,261 --> 00:36:21,181 So we can all get better. 625 00:36:24,221 --> 00:36:28,021 Or... does it not work like that? 626 00:36:30,941 --> 00:36:34,141 It doesn't work like that, Jackie, but I rather think it should. 627 00:37:44,901 --> 00:37:47,421 SOBS 628 00:37:54,181 --> 00:37:57,661 MUFFLED SOB 629 00:37:57,701 --> 00:38:00,781 SOBBING 630 00:38:15,581 --> 00:38:16,861 GEORGE: What were her name? 631 00:38:21,301 --> 00:38:23,261 Thanks for letting me know, Dick. 632 00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:38,181 TELEPHONE RINGS 633 00:39:01,501 --> 00:39:03,581 Can you tell me what sort of accent he's got? 634 00:39:21,421 --> 00:39:23,501 They could have saved her. What? 635 00:39:24,981 --> 00:39:27,861 Two students found her handbag on the road at ten o'clock last night. 636 00:39:27,901 --> 00:39:30,701 The bag had blood on it. They've given it to the police 637 00:39:30,741 --> 00:39:32,901 and they've told 'em to look for Jackie, 638 00:39:32,941 --> 00:39:35,141 look for her straight away, and they've done nothing! 639 00:39:35,181 --> 00:39:37,221 They've not looked for her. 640 00:39:37,261 --> 00:39:41,341 SOBS No, no! She might've been alive. 641 00:39:41,381 --> 00:39:43,341 She might've been alive... 642 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,141 So sorry... 643 00:39:49,541 --> 00:39:52,181 RONALD: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 644 00:39:52,221 --> 00:39:54,181 We have already made a statement, 645 00:39:54,221 --> 00:39:57,341 and as the investigation is ongoing, 646 00:39:57,381 --> 00:40:00,781 we will only be taking a limited number of questions. 647 00:40:00,821 --> 00:40:03,501 ALL SHOUT AT ONCE 648 00:40:03,541 --> 00:40:06,781 Had you looked for her at the point you found the handbag, 649 00:40:06,821 --> 00:40:08,741 there's a chance she might have survived. 650 00:40:08,781 --> 00:40:10,861 Is this true? 651 00:40:10,901 --> 00:40:13,181 It's easy to say they should have found the body sooner. 652 00:40:14,581 --> 00:40:16,141 Maybe they should. 653 00:40:16,181 --> 00:40:19,421 But what should've been done and, with hindsight, 654 00:40:19,461 --> 00:40:22,381 what might have been done, is, of course, pure conjecture. 655 00:40:22,421 --> 00:40:24,741 Should Scotland Yard be taking over the inquiry now? 656 00:40:24,781 --> 00:40:28,541 Scotland Yard sent one of their very best men to see us not long ago, 657 00:40:28,581 --> 00:40:31,421 and I don't think it would be an understatement 658 00:40:31,461 --> 00:40:34,061 to say that he was rather impressed by what he saw. 659 00:40:34,101 --> 00:40:35,861 Chief Constable! 660 00:40:35,901 --> 00:40:37,781 CLAMOURING VOICES 661 00:40:45,901 --> 00:40:48,461 Oh, hell, what are they doing here? 662 00:40:54,541 --> 00:40:57,381 REPORTERS CLAMOURING 663 00:41:01,541 --> 00:41:04,381 What makes them think that we would ever want to talk to them? 664 00:41:06,661 --> 00:41:09,101 What if we can say something that makes her be more careful? 665 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:11,781 Who be more careful? 666 00:41:13,181 --> 00:41:14,741 The next lass. 667 00:41:16,781 --> 00:41:20,781 I want to ask everyone, not just in Leeds or around Leeds, 668 00:41:20,821 --> 00:41:23,661 but the whole of the country, 669 00:41:23,701 --> 00:41:28,301 to please help us find the person who killed my daughter. 670 00:41:30,461 --> 00:41:32,741 He could live in a mansion, 671 00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:35,341 or a block of flats or down the street. 672 00:41:36,981 --> 00:41:38,341 Perhaps he lives in your house. 673 00:41:39,821 --> 00:41:43,101 He lives somewhere. He works for someone. 674 00:41:45,741 --> 00:41:50,181 But please... please think. 675 00:42:20,581 --> 00:42:22,141 Shall I put the kettle on? 676 00:42:27,661 --> 00:42:29,821 Doreen? 677 00:42:32,781 --> 00:42:34,221 Doreen. 678 00:42:35,781 --> 00:42:37,101 What are you doing? 679 00:42:39,141 --> 00:42:40,821 Doreen, what... 680 00:42:42,381 --> 00:42:44,301 Doreen...? 681 00:42:53,221 --> 00:42:56,341 MUSIC: 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' by Peggy Lee 682 00:43:16,221 --> 00:43:19,701 683 00:43:22,181 --> 00:43:26,141 684 00:43:26,181 --> 00:43:28,861 685 00:43:28,901 --> 00:43:33,701 686 00:43:33,741 --> 00:43:38,941 687 00:43:38,981 --> 00:43:40,701 SOBS SOFTLY 688 00:43:41,941 --> 00:43:45,701 689 00:43:45,741 --> 00:43:48,221 OK, if everyone's ready, 690 00:43:48,261 --> 00:43:49,901 let's go and meet on the front lawns, 691 00:43:49,941 --> 00:43:51,581 and we'll walk into town from there. 692 00:43:51,621 --> 00:43:54,061 All right, let's do it. Come on! 693 00:43:54,101 --> 00:43:58,941 694 00:44:00,581 --> 00:44:03,701 695 00:44:03,741 --> 00:44:08,621 696 00:44:08,661 --> 00:44:10,701 697 00:44:10,741 --> 00:44:12,781 CHANTING: Reclaim the nights! 698 00:44:12,821 --> 00:44:15,941 Reclaim the nights! Reclaim the nights! 699 00:44:15,981 --> 00:44:20,301 700 00:44:20,341 --> 00:44:24,861 701 00:44:26,941 --> 00:44:29,541 CHANTING: Women unite, reclaim the nights! 702 00:44:29,581 --> 00:44:33,021 703 00:44:33,061 --> 00:44:35,341 CHANTING CONTINUES 704 00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:38,941 705 00:44:38,981 --> 00:44:45,861 706 00:44:45,901 --> 00:44:52,421 707 00:44:52,461 --> 00:44:59,141 708 00:44:59,181 --> 00:45:00,501 CHANTING: Wherever we go! 709 00:45:00,541 --> 00:45:05,461 710 00:45:05,501 --> 00:45:11,701 711 00:45:11,741 --> 00:45:14,941 712 00:45:14,981 --> 00:45:19,821 713 00:45:19,861 --> 00:45:23,501 714 00:45:23,541 --> 00:45:27,301 715 00:45:27,341 --> 00:45:31,861 716 00:45:31,901 --> 00:45:36,141 717 00:45:36,181 --> 00:45:39,181 CHANTING: Women unite! Reclaim the night! 718 00:45:39,221 --> 00:45:41,581 Women unite! Reclaim the night! 719 00:45:41,621 --> 00:45:45,541 CHANTING ECHOES AND FADES 720 00:45:58,981 --> 00:46:00,741 CHANTING ON TELEVISION 721 00:46:00,781 --> 00:46:03,781 'Five years is too long. No, it's been going on too long. 722 00:46:03,821 --> 00:46:05,821 'If they can't... If they haven't caught him yet, 723 00:46:05,861 --> 00:46:07,181 'I don't think they ever will.' 724 00:46:07,221 --> 00:46:09,341 He won't be back in a hurry. 725 00:46:09,381 --> 00:46:11,221 No. 726 00:46:13,381 --> 00:46:15,621 But he'll turn up somewhere. 727 00:46:51,061 --> 00:46:53,821 Business? How much? 728 00:46:53,861 --> 00:46:56,021 Ten pound. 729 00:46:56,061 --> 00:46:57,541 With a rubber. 730 00:46:57,581 --> 00:46:59,141 Go on, then. 731 00:47:22,221 --> 00:47:24,221 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com